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PJ's avatar

I’ve worked in corporate sustainability for almost 10 years- I couldn’t agree with this more. Thanks for saying this so well

AJ's avatar

Plastics are generally bad in other ways. The proliferation and ubiquity of microplastic contaminants is a big one. It doesn’t help that virtually everything comes wrapped in plastic these days since, as you note, recycling of plastic is largely a joke.

I absolutely agree with your overall points though. There is a nuance and complexity to so many of these issues, but the attention economy has no patience for it and people choose the “feel good” option because it’s easy and they want it to be true. It makes it hard to have a substantive discussion about how many of the perceived risks of climate change (a Mad Max uninhabitable Earth) are not actual risks. It makes trying to consider and mitigate the actual risks much more difficult.

Phillip's avatar

I’ve heard and read that mo:5 microplastic that are in our environment come from paint and tires

Dog's avatar

Where is an explanation as to why "that plastic wasn’t inherently bad for the environment?"

Bayerd Coalfur's avatar

I had this kind of realization when talking to friends about an inquiry of mine. Why we don't source more of our own wood and coal here in the United States? No one was willing to engage with me in the idea that we could mine our own resources safer than the people we get them from.

My idea is that if our society needs wood and coal right now since we can't remove that need without some new technology yet to be invented, then we should do the mining and logging ourselves to remove the environmental responsibility that we trust in other countries like Brazil, Canada, and China.

GenderRealistMom's avatar

"It’s a moral code imbued with what I call feel-goodism, the belief that emotional or moral satisfaction equals effectiveness." Unfortunately, I think it's even worse. It's not feel-goodism, it's feel-badism. You have to feel bad about the environment to stay in the activists' good graces. I think now saying that paper bags are also bad is acceptable. It's all bad! We are doomed! The worst thing you can say is that not all is bad and actually, that some of the problems with the environment can be solved. The second you say it's not all that bad, you are an ultra-right climate change denier and probably secretly hate puppies and think the world is flat.

Lucy Biggers's avatar

I think youre right in that, if you dont do what the environmental movement pushes, you will feel bad. So you stay in the groupthink to feel good.

Judy Wessell's avatar

When feelings rule the world, truth is the casualty.

Jeff Miller's avatar

"When I came across a fact that contradicted the group consensus—in this case, that plastic wasn’t inherently bad for the environment..."

Noting that every human (and nonhuman) biological organism, including you, is now saturated with mind-dulling, disease driving, reproductive crashing, life shortening PFAS / plastic particulates: in the bloodstream; in every organ of the body; in sperm, placenta and even in the bodily organs of human fetuses.

Noting that the last remaining iteration of human is very likely already functionally extinct.

Noting that the snow on the peak of mountaintops are thick with these substances, as is all air, water, soil and and the biological creatures we consume.

Noting that the past thirty years of plastic production hasn't yet particularized and that plastic production is projected to steadily increase until 2060.

Noting that human biological organisms ARE the environment too. PFAS / plastic particulates are driving ecological collapse. They very def ARE "bad for the environment".

I'm guessing that you know this.

Bobby Green's avatar

Bipartisan American leasing from the front.

Brian Baskerville's avatar

Welcome to the free thinking club, Lucy! It's great to have you.